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Beginners / Dothraki Discord
« on: July 05, 2018, 11:08:02 am »
Just a reminder to anyone who's looking at this forum right now and wondering why it's so empty:

https://discord.gg/u8FGy74

We're on Discord now. Click the link above and join the community discussion. Thanks!

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General Discussion / Song tidbit I composed in Dothraki
« on: January 08, 2018, 04:56:53 pm »
M'ath eyak!

I made a little 20 second diddy of a song written in the style I think the Dothraki would most likely develop in their culture.  It's heavily based in Mongolian Tuvan music, made with Eastern instruments and throat singing (something I spent an afternoon learning how to do so I could record this song), but has influences from Africa and the Steppe as a whole.

The lyrics so far go "Anha vo dothrok ma janoon che oqeti akka", which means "I do not ride with dogs nor next to sheep" and is supposed to be a song sung at night after a successful battle; something to flaunt the fact that you were victorious, but not something to rile you up and get you pumped.

I hope you enjoy!

https://vocaroo.com/i/s0gCdCthk0fM





This is an edit from hours later. I elaborated on the song some more and have a rough cut of what it's going to sound like

https://vocaroo.com/i/s0736h1gQny6

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Dothraki Language Updates / New words created for Amikumu
« on: December 14, 2017, 05:08:14 pm »
This thread will be used as an archive for all the words I make for Amikumu.  Each day that I make a new word, I will add it to this thread so that we can add them to the dictionary later.


12/14/17

Password n —Asodin (word pass)
Week na —Fekhashekh (seven day)
Abuse n —Melesitteya (bad bragging)
Contact (information) ni —Frakhonesa (touch information)
Advanced adj —Vishven (Forehead-like)
Possibility n —Athdevar (able in nominative form)
Age ni —Athfozar (old in nominative form)
Profile na — Khadoqem (cloth body. Meant to convey the meaning of presenting a personal, but not entirely authentic, version of yourself)
Behavior n — Okki (from the root "choose". Means something like "choice")
Internet na — Qosarreya (web. shortened from the euphemism "the human's web")
Near adj — Qis
Voice message ni — Assomemikh (sound word)
Term n — Kelenakh (the final decision)
Condition/Agreement/Deal/Joint decision n — Niyanqooqo (choose together. the [oq] at the end is actually an allomorph of [ok]. Also sounds similar to "heart beating together")
Public adj — Yanqache (collective environment)
Public n — Athyanqachar
University n — Eziversharra (continuously traditional/ancient learning. Meant to sound similar to the actual word University)
Association n — Athsillazar (a following)
Distant adj — Hezhah
Distance n — Athhezhahar
E- prfx — Q-
Detail n — Sachia (a little piece)
List n — Zafranrisa (slave line. Comes from the Dothraki making sure that all the slaves they give to the trade-cities are all together)
Account n — Sansalir (derives from "san")
Change n — Esinasa
Translate dtr all. — Yomloshat (across carrying. this along with the allative case makes the meaning become "carrying the language to another language")
Biography n — Hoyalathira (life song)
Safety n — Asanda
Anyone na — Loyak
Fortune, Destiny na — Hlosha (compund of hatif "forward" and losh "carry")
Fortunate adj — Hloshven
Interface n — Kashatif (amongst the face)
Middle part/ Intermediate/ Center n — Emmeya (Meronymic of "mra")
Current adj — Vekh
Native adj — Esifas
Register v int — Savezalat
Reason (explanation) n — Elze
Female/Femininity n — Athchiorizar
Male/Masculinity n — Athmahrazhar
Description n — Zohasta
Everything ni — Evekh
Blocked adj — Najaz


More on the way!

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Beginners / All Root Morphemes in Dothraki [RESOURCE]
« on: December 14, 2017, 06:30:29 am »
M'ath eyaki!

Below is a list of every free morpheme found in Dothraki as well as any allomorphs, homomorphs or cryptomorphs that appear in the dictionary.  These roots have been shaved down to their most basic form, meaning most every morpheme ends in a consonant (unless absolutely necessary to the meaning the morpheme carries).  Inflectional and derivational morphology has been left out, but may be added at a later date.  These roots can be a useful learning tool — helping you to better learn and grasp the core meanings of Dothraki and better deduce the meaning of words that you may not know — as well as a good template for you to use if you're in a situation where you need to make a new word.  It was a great deal of fun to make and I hope you enjoy the resource!

Dothraki Root Morphemes

(E/A)v- start, beginning, parent
(H)ad(aen)- food
(V)o(s)- no, not, negative, none
Achr- smell, smelly, odor
Adakh- eat, feed, consume
Ador- chair
Adr- Turtle
Aen- morning
Afazh- hot
Afis- fly
Ahesh- snow
Ak(at)- two, also, including, as well
Al- some
Alegr- duck
An- jog
Anha- 1st person singular pronoun
Ao- dark, deep, empty
Ar- [unknown] (possibly related to Az-)
Aran- drop, forget, neglect
Ares- hide
Arth- to fall
As- word
Asavv(a)- sky
Asf- berry
Ashef- river
Assh(i)- introduce, present, presentation
Ast- speak, say, saying, prayer, joke
At- one
Ath- dry
Awaz- scream
Ay- wait, remain, always
Ayen- bell
Az- blade
Azh- gift, present
Ch(oo)- pika
Chaf- wind, unauthentic, corporeal
Chak- quiet
Chal- bean
Char- ear, hear, listen
Che- or, either
Chek- well
Chelsian- locust
Chen- liver
Chetir- canter, stroll
Chey- dark bey horse
Chi- -(enty)
Chift- cricket
Chil- lay, supine, expanse, ground, limit
Chior- woman
Chir- almost
Chit- shiver
Chiv- horn
Choak- bitter
Chom- respect
Chong- hard
Choq- run from, flee, retreat
Chork- roll
Chosh- fresh
Chot- beet
Choy- butt, cushion, rear
Daen- leaf
Dah- grass
Dak- pomegranate
Dalen- thousand
Dalf- cattle
Dan1- gem
Dan2- river ford
Dana- forest clearing
Darif- saddle
Darin- limp, lame, crippled
Dav1- pungent, smelly
Dav2- rosemary bush
Davr- use, good
Day- breast, bosom, nourish
Dech- cheek
Dei- light colored
Dev- to be able to, to know how to
Devesh- fog, mist
Diaf- skull
Dik- fast
Dil- sparkle
Din- pass, surpass
Dirg- idea, thought
Dis- simple, basic
Dishah- tree bark
Diw(e)- wet
Diwe- wet, moist
Dog- suffer
Don- shout
Dorv- goat
Dosh- council
Dothr- ride
Dovoedd(i)- unsullied, castrated
Dozg- enemy, opponent, opposite
Dran- breastfeeding mother
Drek- spill
Driv- death, dead, kill
Drog- herd, corral, drive
Drozh- inanimate slay, kill
E(i/y)- All
Ef- shackle, bondage
Ej- edge, bank
Elain- plant, seed
Elm- shoulder
Elz- respond, feedback, reasoning
Em- smile
Emr- exit, leave
Enossh(o)
Ent- child, baby
Erin- good, kind
Ersh- old
Es- smooth
Esh- new, rise, emerge
Eshin- fish
Eshn- other, another
Esin- different
Ess(a)- return
Eth- must, have to
Ew(e)- olive
Eyel- rain
Ez- learn, study, smart, find, teacher, explore, venture
Fak- kick
Fans- dappled horse
Faq- corn bunting
Fas- cloud
Fat- insult, slap
Fedr- the sound of hooves
Fej- hate
Fekh- seven
Feld- wing
Fen- attach
Fer- hemp
Fes- carrot, root, vegetable
Feshith- tree
Fev- thirst, thirsty
Fich- grab, fetch, pick up
Fiez- rope, lasso
Fih- smoke
Filk- caterpillar
Fill- dried plum
Fin- interrogative
Fir- round
Fis- clean
Fish- cold
Fit- short
Flas- cream
Flech- dull
Fon- hunt, track, seek
Foth- throat, neck
Foz- old
Frakh- feel, touch
Gach- place, space, environment
Gadim- lungs, roots of a tree
Gaez- brother, fraternal
Gal- egg
Gamiz- rice
Gan- lean, burden, drag down
Gang- stomach
Gaol- intestines, guts
Garv- hunger, hungry
Gavat- meat
Gech- vagina, pussy, female genitals
Geh- [unknown] (something to do with a bolas)
Gend- rip
Ger- lack
Gev- mole
Gezr- snake, serpent
Gid- push
Gil- breeze, air, breath
Gim- mouse
Giz- bee
Glas- onion
Glen- louse
Gor- charge a horse
Gosh- certain
Gov- breed
Gradd(a)- graddakh, garbage
Gref- wall
Gwe- go!
Ha- for, from
Hador- gust of wind
Haf- quiet
Hag- link, chain, bond
Haj- strong
Haje- right (direction)
Haji- because
Hak(e)- name, title, fame, reputation
Hal(e)- Hey!
Halah- flower
Hale- to get
Hamm(i)- yak
Hann(a)- rose
Haq(e)- exhaustion, tired
Has- sharp
Hash- do/are/is
Hatif- face, front, confront
Hav- move weakly
Havazh- sea, ocean, saltwater body
Havon- bread
Havz- cat
Haz- medial locative
Hef- [unknown] (something to do with jugs)
Hem- fur
Hesk- south, southern
Heth- person lips, rims
Hethk- prepare, tight, ready
Hezhah- distance, travel, far
Hil- sex, fucking
Him- fist, clench, squeeze
Hlak- glove
Hliz- bear, powerful
Hlof- wrist, ankle, joint, pivot
Hosh- gold
Hosk- animal mouth
Hoyal- song
Hrakkar- lion
Hran- grass
Hrazef- horse
Idir1- owl
Idir2- turn, spin
Ido- wood, fake
Idr- guide, leader of hun
If- foreign
Igg(e)- bucket
Ij- swallow
Ikh- product, outcome, ash
Il- skin
Ild- sword strike
Ilek- skin
Ilm- vegetable
Imo- belt
Inavv(a)- sister
Ind- drink
Int- beetle, bug
Irg- behind, back
Irr(a)- trout
Irv- trot
Ish- might
Ist- well proven, well tested, durable
It- Lukewarm
Ithkoil- brittle
Iv- melt
Iv(i)- melt, smelt
Ivezh- wild, fierce
Iz- poison
Jad- come
Jadr- vulture
Jah- pride, victory, conquest
Jalan- moon
Jan- dog
Janha- blanket
Janis- niece
Jaq- execute, assassinate
Javrath- reigns
Jaz- block, protect, defend
Jedd(a)- pony
Jel(a)- lemon
Jell(i)- cheese
Jer(a)- trade, haggle, discuss
Jerv- imprison, enclose, capture
Jes- to pull
Jesh- frozen, very cold
Jif- should
Jil- correct
Jimm(a)- west, westward
Jin1- proximal locative
Jin2- female goat
Jith- fox
Jiz- Chicken
Jol- cook
Jom- salmon
Jon- close, shut
Jor- idol
Jorok- corn
Kad- net
Kaf- pestle, grindstone, crush, grind
Kan- lark
Karlin- gallop
Kart- pull with both hands
Kash- time, during, chronology, duration
Kazg- Black
Kelen- order, organized
Kem- conjoin
Ken- hundred
Kendr- opal
Kess(e)- carry
Kha(d/l)- body, waist, royal, military leader
Khef- sneeze
Kher- animal skin
Khew(o)- worm
Khir- flag
Khizr- marsh, swamp
Khogar- clothes
Khogar(i)- box, chest
Ki- by
Kim- origin, primitive
Kim(i)- palm tree
Kis- to try to
Kisha- 1st person plural pronoun
Koal- heal, health, apothecary
Kog- flaw, blemish
Kohol- bow
Kol- heal, cure
Kolver- eagle
Kov- stand
Krazaaj- mountain
Krist- female relative
Krol- flea
Lain- pretty
Laj- fight
Lakh- chewing, chew
Lam- mare
Lan- run
Laq- tear, droplet
Lashfak- Stew
Lav- loud
Laz- can, able to
Lei- lost
Lekh- tongue, taste, language
Lent- stem, neck
Leqs- rat, rodent
Leshit- breath
Lir- tattoo
Liw(a)- to tie
Loj- hit
Lom- bathe
Loqam- arrow
Lor- blink, wink, batting eyes
Losh- carry
Lost- disappoint
Loy- a bit, small amount, few
Ma- and, with
Mad- sew
Maeg- witch, sorceress, blood magic
Maf- kid (goat)
Mahrazh- man
Mai- mother
Mal- finish something, complete
Mani(m)- anxious, nervous
Mari- construct, build, forge
Mas- valuable
Matt(e)- limp
Mawizz(e)- rabbit
Me- 3rd person singular
Mek- five
Mel- evil, bad
Mem- sound
Men- empty
Mes- muscle
Mes(i)- pregnant, swollen
Mesina- soup
Mezah- sex, sexy, hot
Mhar- ache, sore
Mih- thorn, jab, poky thing
Mithr- rest, relax, calm
Mori- 3rd person plural pronoun nominative
Mosk- pack, sack, pouch
Move- make, create, build, cast
Mra- into, within, out of
Mred- garlic
Nakh- end, stop
Nav- urine
Nayat- girl
Neak- long
Negwin- stone
Nem-self
Nerr(o)- foal
Nes- know, knowledge
Neva- sit, squat
Nhar- head
Nhiz- raven
Nhom- female gog
Nin(d)- sausage
Niq- rigid, erect
Nir- fill
Nith- pain
Nizh- tough, hard, difficult
Noah- bull
Nof- wipe
Nokit- trample
Noreth- hair
Not- turn
Nozh- brown skinned
Nris- straight
Nroj- thick, complex
O(r/s)to- tooth, bite
Oakah- mettle, worth, soul
Och- light skin
Oet- yam
Og- slaughter, fatality, butcher
Ogg(o)- animal head
Ohar- fall, collapse, defeat
Ohar(a)- daughter
Ohazh- heavy, ripe
Oir- fat
Ok- choose
Ok(e)o- friend, trustee, bodyguard
Okh- ring
Okr- tent, personal space, enclosed area
Old- rub
Oleth- above
Olt- hill
Ond- wear
Onqoth- walk, horse’s gait
Oqet- sheep
Oqo- beat, rhythm
Ori- eight
Orz(i)- shoe
Orzo- trap, ambush
Os- path
Osh- suck
Ovah- wide, fat
Ovr- loose, moveable
Ozzir- ruby
Q(o/i)y- blood
Qach- firefly
Qaf- question
Qahlan- palomino horse
Qam- [unknown] (something to do with grief, crying, sadness)
Qan- stork
Qavat- nine
Qay- float
Qaz2- apple
Qazat- nine
Qem- covering, clothes, cloth
Qes- basket, open container
Qeshah- sand
Qev- forest
Qif- boar
Qil- island, isolated
Qis- near
Qlas- deer, prey
Qor- Hand, hold, grab, take
Qosar- spider, deceit, lie maliciously
Qoth- loyal, repetitive
Qov- shed
Qweh- vomit
Rachel- tiger
Rag- choke, choking on something
Rah- [unknown] (something to do with light)
Rakh- boy
Ram- [unknown] (something to do with land or ground)
Ray- already
Rayan- plateau, top
Rea- organ
Redd(a)- thin, skinny
Rek- distal locative
Remek- sleep
Renrenoh- hollow
Rhae- foot, ground, measurement
Rhag- cart, vehicle
Rhan- mercy, benevolence
Rhel- help, aide
Rhik- stirrup
Rhoa- animal
Rhoj- family member, relative
Rich- bubble, swell
Rigw- raisin
Rikh- rot
Ris- cut, cut into, fix, surgery
Riv- nose, smell, sniff
Rizh- son
Roch- scrape
Rof- shriveled
Rokh- fear
Sach- piece, half, semi, a part
Saj- steed
Samv- break
San- much, many, a lot
Sand- safe
Save- again
Sek- yes
Sen- three
Seris- free
Serj- vest
Sewaf- grape
Shaf- breaking in, getting your first kill with a new weapon, loss of virginity
Shafka- 2nd person formal singular pronoun
Shar- healthy
She- upon, in, on
Shekh- sun, day, light
Shier- star, glint
Shig- snore
Shil- to know a person
Shim- tame
Shin- fizzle out
Shiqeth- steel, metal, grey
Shir- scorpion
Shiran- beard, facial hair
Sho- mark, spot, smudge
Shok- jump
Shor- dress
Sier- nephew
Sikht- spit
Sil- flash, gleam
Sill(a)- follow
Simon- male relative
Sindarin- left, leftward
Sis- lighting
Sit- brag, lie
Som1- zero
Som2- missing
Sondr- Obsidian
Soq- weave
Soqw- plum
Sorf- dirt, dirty
Soroh- halt
Sov- pear
T(a)- do
Taok- metal
Tas- silkworm
Tav- chop
Tawak- metal, authentic
Tehin- breed of horse with reddish fur
Temm(e)- thunder
Tha- duty, task, dutiful
Thagw- yogurt
Thash- soft
Thav- marmot
Thelis- blue
They- nipple
Thi- ten
Thif- narrow
Thim- leak
Thir- life
Thom- juice, juicy
Tif- woody seed
Tih- eye, see, observe
Tim- boot
Timv- book
Tir- finger, point, sharp point, nail
Tith- east
Tok- dumb
Tolor- bone
Tor- four
Torg- stomach, belly, tummy
Tozar- lake
V(e/i)th- water, flowing, fluid
Vad1- filly
Vad2- turnip
Vaes- city, civilization, emassing of people
Vaf- lamb
Valad- horizon
Valsh- north, northwards
Vash- stampede
Vaz- storm
Vekh- thing, being, to be, existing as, presently
Veltor- yellow
Vem- elbow, knee, hinge
Ven- like, alike, similar
Ver1- travel
Ver2- wolf
Vezh- stallion, great, amazing
Vi- through
Vik1- annoying, bitchy
Vik2- chin, jaw
Vil1- to manage to
Vil2- wise
Vind- stab
Vint- portion of meat
Virzeth- red
Vish- [unknown] (something to do with both foreheads, color, and killing)
Vit(h)- flow, feast
Vizhad- silver
Vod- dust
Voj- person, thinking being
Vors- fire, heat
Vov- weapon
Vre- leap
Vroz- slow
Yanq- gathering, collection, group
Yar- flinch
Yash- air
Yath- high, up, upwards
Yen- fail, failure
Yer- 2nd person informal singular pronoun
Yeri- 2nd person plural pronoun
Yesi- crone
Yett(o)- frog
Yof- crazy, insane
Yol- birth, egg, embryo
Yom- cross
Yor- million
Yot- fruit
Yoz- dilute, make less, disperse
Zafr- slav
Zaj- refuse
Zal- hope, want, desire
Zan- sturdy, stable, steadfast
Zand- sack, pouch, pack, purse
Zasq- white
Zerq- swim
Zhal- winged insect, butterfly, moth
Zhan- spear, select
Zhaq- bass
Zhav- reptile
Zhea- beautiful
Zhey- vocative marker
Zhif- salt
Zhikh- sick, ill
Zhil- love
Zhill(i)- any, general, broad
Zhind- six
Zhir- dance, celebrate
Zhokw- big
Zhor- heart
Zhowa- danger
Zin- still, am currently
Zir- bird
Zirv- flash
Zis- hurt, wound, scratch
Zoh- low, down, descend
Zol- small, bit, speck
Zor- roar


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Beginners / Dictionary Update Proposal
« on: December 14, 2017, 06:00:46 am »
Yesterday, I worked to compile every root morpheme I could find in Dothraki as a way for me to better understand the core meanings of words. I condensed each one down to their smallest form, and any vowels at the end of root (unless absolutely necessary to the morpheme, or apart of a geminate) were removed. In total, I counted about 630 root morphemes in Dothraki. This is really impressive, seeing as English has about 1,000 or so morphemes (over halfway, baby!).

Despite the huge amount of morphemes that Dothraki has, it doesn't appear that we're using them to their full potential. If, for argument's sake, we assume that each root can generate a noun, adjective, and verb form, Dothraki should have about 1,890 words. Not bad! Almost half the number of words we have currently. However, these roots are largely semantic in meaning, so we can generate multiple meanings from each of them. If we take those roots and split them into just two other separate meanings (as a conservative guess), we will have 5670 individual words in Dothraki. Not only that, but verbs can be turned into a transitive and intransitive form, so we can have about double the amount of verbs and add another 1890 words to the dictionary (630 verb roots * 3 semantic meanings *(transitive verb forms/2 verb forms)), making the number of words around 7,560.  On top of all this, we still have the adverbs, conjunctions and prepositions to account for, which should all together be an extra 40-60 words, making the dictionary around 7,600 words long. This alone nearly doubles the amount of words we have currently, and that doesn't even cover the possibilities we have with derivational morphology and compound words!

*Currently, the equation we have for estimating the amount of words looks like this* 
630 roots*3 semantic meanings*3 parts of speech+(630 verb roots *3 semantic meanings*(1 transitive forms/2 verb forms))+ 60 estimated minor parts of speech = 7610 words

*and the formula looks like this*
RSP+(RS(V/2V))+B=C
V=1

On the Dothraki Words for the Modern World thread, I posted a list of 50 root words from PIE, Greek and Latin that would be useful to Dothraki if we made our own roots with the same meaning. Adding those new roots and going through the same calculations, Dothraki could potentially have 8,200 words (without including derivational morphology or compund words)! The crazy thing is all these estimates are pretty conservative too, and many of these root morphemes could generate four or even five different meanings by themselves; we could easily generate 13,500 words with this method and not have to worry about derivational morphology or compound words at all.

Now come the derivational morphemes.

The numbers get crazy if you factor them in. For nouns alone, we have seven derivating morphemes to make new words from the roots. Using the conservative guess at the amount of meanings a root can derive, this means that the amount of nouns that can be added hits a whopping 14,280 (680 roots*3 meanings*7 derivations). Verbs have four derivations, so we could make 8,160 more verbs.  Finally, we have adjectives with their two derivations, making their list make 4,080 more words.  This makes the conservative numbers 34,760 total words in the dictionary.  If we use our liberal estimates, the number reaches a staggering 57,760 words.

When all said and done, the size of the dictionary could reach a word count ranging from a very conservative ~34,800 to a very liberal ~57,800 (not including compounds, either).  This puts Dothraki's word count on the same level as natural languages and could super benefit the range of topics and mediums the language could cover.  Now, I do understand that not all of these roots can be broken up that many times, or even broken up at all, but even if my estimates have a +/- 50% margin of error, the thousands of words that could exist would be nothing but beneficial to the conlang. 

I'm going to start on this project and build new words as I work my way through translating Amikumu.  I need a lot of words ASAP and I can't really afford putting that translation project down while I work on making a dictionary.  I will start a thread on this forum, and each day I will post any words I make while translating so that we have a record of what we should put into the dictionary later on.  I'll probably start the process of generating as many meanings from each root as I can this summer while I work on the Dothraki Atlas.  I hope you all take my proposal into consideration, and anyone interested in volunteering for this project feel free to send me a message about what you could do to help!

Haji!

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Dothraki Language Updates / Dothraki News and Updates
« on: December 13, 2017, 08:26:40 am »
M'aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaath Eyaki!

I return from the black, screaming, lukewarm abyss of college to once again spend my vacation on these forums, and boy howdy do I have some BIG announcements for December!

First on the list; I few months back I was contacted by the language app Amikumu to translate their UI into Dothraki, and over Christmas break I will be a giz zol dik getting that fully translated! However, I am going to need to contact whoever is in charge of making new roots for Dothraki, because the long, abstract words that I'm coming up with to describe things like "personal account" and "social media" are just not working out for me, and I gotta cut down on syllable count before Dothraki becomes Oligosynthetic.

Second; If I finish the Amikumu project before the end of break, I will get back to work on the Dothraki Atlas. I will start writing more into the culture of the Dothraki and begin to edit the lovely work that Reuben22 has done on the project and maybe possibly start to compile the first rough draft of it together! If I don't get to it before my winter break ends, I'll definitely be working on the Atlas in the summer of 2018 (honestly most of the work I was going to do on this was going to be in the summer anyway since I fully expect the Amikumu translation to take up most of December and January).

Final announcement; this is less of an announcement as it is a proposition to our community.  I think that we either need to relocate our official place of meeting, better advertise this forum to other people, or do a better job keeping people active in learning and using Dothraki/Valyrian so that this conlang develops a stronger and more centralized community.  There are many conlangs on the internet, and many of them are able to keep people engaged in the language on a daily basis, which appears to be a large issue with this forum.  Things like Na'vi are able to keep an active community for 10 years after the release of the movie which the conlang comes from, but we're struggling to have a new post or comment once a month.  Dothraki/Valyrian come from the biggest and most impactful TV show of the last three years or so; we should have more people!).  I can't tell you about how many people I've met on the internet who are interested in Dothraki/Valyrian but have no idea where to start or where to go to get engaged.  Within the next year or so, I think we should look into serious change about how we organize and how we reach out to new people online, lest we completely fall apart as a community and lose being able to make some amazing projects for the conlangs of Westeros.


That's about all, folks! I am going to be active here every day or so to keep you guys updated and engaged in what I plan for Dothraki this winter.  Zhey Hrakkar, Anh'avasterak ma shafkaan qisi movek ase sash ha Dothrakaan, majin hethki ha rekaan.

Foni chek!

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I love me some Dune, and thought it would be fun to translate the Litany Against Fear into Dothraki, and into as many scripts that I've transliterated as I could. Enjoy!

Original English:

I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death at the end of the universe that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fears.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.



Modified English:

I must not fear.
Fear kills minds.
Fear is death, and lives toward the end of everything.
It will pass over me and through me.
When it has passed, I will watch it ride.
Where the Fear has existed, there will be nothing. Only me.


Dothraki:

Anha’th vo rokhok.
Athrokhar drozha yothnhar.
Athrokhar athdrivara, ma thira athnakhozaraan.
Me adina oleth anni ma vi anhaan.
Hash me ray din, hash anha atihak mae adothrae.
Rekke athrokhari vekh, me zin vo vekho. Anni vekhak disse.


Retranslation:

I must not fear.
Fear kills minds.
Fear is death, and lives at the end.
It will pass over me and through me.
When it has passed, then I will watch it ride.
Where it existed, it will no longer exist. Only I exist.


Cyrillic:

Анха’ц во рохъок.
Ацрохъап дрожа йоцнхар.
Ацпохъар ацдривара, ма цира ацнахъозараан.
Ме адина олец анни ма ви анхаан.
Хаш ме рай дин, хаш анха атихак мае адоцрае.
Рекке ацрохъари вехъ, ме зин во вехъо. Анни вехъак диссе.


Hebrew:

אנהא'ת בו רוחוכ.
אתרוחאר דרוזיא יותנהאר.
אתרוחאר אתדריבארא, מא תירא אתנאחוזאראאן.
מאֶ אדינא ולאֶת אנני מא בי אנהאאן.
האש מאֶ ראי דין, האש אנהא אטיהאך מאאֶ אדותראאֶ.
ראֶככאֶ אתרוחארי באֶח, מאֶ זין בו באֶחו. אנני באֶחאך דיססאֶ.


plqaD:

anHatlh vo roH’oq.
atlhroH’ar Drogh’a yotlhnHar.
atlhroH’ar atlhDrIvara, ma tlhIra atlhnaH’ogharaan.
me adIna oletlh annI ma vI anHaan.
HaS’ me ray DIn, HaS’ anHa atIHaq mae aDotlhrae.
reqqe atlhroH’arI veH’, me zIn vo veH’o. annI veH’aq DISSe.


Arabic:

Arabic:

انحا'ث ﭪو روخوك.
اثروخار دروژا يوثنحار.
اثروخار اثدريﭪارا، ما ثيرا اثناخوزارآن.
مة ادينا ولةث انّي ما ﭪي انحآن.
حاش مة راي دين، حاش انحا اثيحاك ماة ادوثراي.
رةكّة اثروخاري ﭪةخ، مة زين ﭪو ﭪةخو.
انّي ﭪةخاك ديسّة.



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General Discussion / plqaD Dothraki
« on: January 16, 2017, 03:22:35 pm »
Time for transliteration from conlang to conlang! Today I use the klingon alphabet and adapt it into to the sounds of Dothraki. Unfortunately, there doesn't appear to be a decent online keyboard for plqaD, so the romanization will be used in place of the orthography.

a - A
ch - Ch
D - D
e - E
p - F
ng - G
H - H
I - I
j - J
q - K
H' - Kh
l - L
m - M
n - N
o - O
Q - Q
r - R
S - S
S' - Sh
t - T
tlh - Th
v - V
w - W
y - Y
gh - Z
gh'- Zh

Foot notes:
-p is used for the /f/ sound because the klingon p is actually a bilabial affricate and contains a similar /f/ sound at the end of it
-ng is used for the /g/ sound because both are voiced sounds produced from the velar region
-the ' is often used as a modifier of a symbol, and not necessarily the glottal stop itself (similar to yod used in the last transliteration, or h in english). It effects H, S, and gh, and makes the /kh/,/sh/, and /zh/ sounds
-tlh is used for the /th/ sound because both are represented with a "t" heading in their romanized forms
-gh is used for the /z/ sound for the sole reason of that they are both voiced fricatives

Example:

Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
Avvirsae id ha mahrazhaan, ma me vafazhie vi asshekhaan. Avvirsae mahrazhes, ma me vafazhie vi athiraraan moon ei.
avvIrSae ID Ha maHragh'aan, ma me vapagh'Ie vI aSS'eH'aan.  avvIrsae maHragh'eS,  ma me vapagh'Ie vI atlhIraraan moon eI.

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General Discussion / Hebrew Dothraki
« on: January 10, 2017, 09:20:22 pm »
Once again I return with a new transliteration, and this time I got a challenge for myself! Time to force the Hebrew alphabet into a tight and uncomfortable box:

א - A
צ - Ch
ד - D
אֶ - E
פ - F
ג - G
ה - H
ח - Kh
אִ - I
די - J
כ - K
ל - L
מ - M
נ - N
אֹ - O
ק - Q
ר - R
ס - S
ש - Sh
ט - T
ת - Th
ב - V
ו - W
י - Y
ז - Z
זי - Zh

Some notes on my choices:
-vowel diacritics were an absolute necessity for dothraki, especially since Dothraki has the /e/ vowel that hebrew does not.
-It may be a little confusing, Chet and Khaf represent two sounds in dothraki, even if they represent the same sounds in Hebrew.  The distinction of the two is made in the roman spelling, with Chet representing the /ch/ sound and Khaf representing the /kh/ sound
- The /J/ and /Zh/ are written with /Dalet+Yod/ and /Zayin+Yod/, Making a sort of 'Dy' and 'Zy' sounds if read out of context
-I chose not to be nit picky about what form some of the characters are in (especially with Mem, Nun, Tzadei and Khaf), so really any form you want can work in hebrew dothraki
-Tav is used for the /th/ sound, the same as some Sefardi, Chassidic and Yemen dialects
 

Example sentences:

Hello, my friends. How are you today?
מ'אתצאֹמאראֹאֹנ, אֹךאֶאֹסאִ אננאִ. האש יאֶראִ דותראאֶ צאֶכ?
My arakh will lay beside your arakh.
אראח אננאִ אמאִתרא אראחאִ שאפכאִ.

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General Discussion / Assekhannakh Vezhvena!
« on: December 25, 2016, 07:03:25 am »
Ma qorasos firesofes sash davra akka!

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Dothraki Language Updates / What in the world is going on
« on: December 11, 2016, 12:53:55 pm »
Hey was their an update or change in the language? Something screwy is happening to me.

I've always, always been under the impression that when you use the genitive, the possessor and the possessee are put in the genitive case:

my arakh
arakhi anni

However, I looked back at the syntax page of the wiki and every example of a possessive only has the possessor in the genitive:

my arakh
arakh anni

All of my notes say that the genitive encompasses both, and I took my notes straight from the wiki, but suddenly all of that is changed. Am I completely batshit!? Have I been wrong this whole time!?
This is like the Berenstain Bears all over again...

Help!

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Valyrian Language Updates / Descartes
« on: November 23, 2016, 06:27:22 pm »
So in my studies of High Valyrian, I cam across the section of the wiki that dealt with the aorist 'to be'. I found this very fascinating, because it's such a bizarre and complicated structure that will almost never be used in day to day talk. DJP wrote about how he didn't really know of a way to use it, but I think I found the perfect use of these verbs:

I think, therefore I am

which would translate to:

Nyke otāpin, sebisa nyke iksin


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Dothraki Language Updates / The Atlas of the Dothraki
« on: November 15, 2016, 08:38:05 am »
Hey everyone,

In my last post I talked a little bit about the stories of the Dothraki people that I have been writing. These stories are apart of a larger project idea that I had for the Dothraki community and I wanted to get some feedback from you guys.

My idea is to write a book, an atlas of sorts, about all the aspects of Dothraki culture. From traditional weapon making to constellations, this book will hold all the information about what makes the fearsome warriors  all that much more human. I wanted to get feedback from as many members of this community as possible, incorporating and expanding upon elements of a culture that you may want to be apart of the atlas, so that this isn't just some book of random things I made up and instead being something that was actually built from a community of people. This book will contain in depth descriptions, diagrams, pictures and instructions on pieces of their culture. Hopefully, if we work through enough legal tape, we could get GRRM to add some of his own content and maybe get this published too. I would love to see this come to life, and any critique, comment, volunteerment, or resources that you have will me much appreciated!

So far I have a list of ideas that could go into this book:

-oral tradition
-clothing
-paintings and tattoos
-jewelry
-traditional dance
-musical instruments
-childhood games
-hunting techniques
-khalasar hierarchy
-rituals
-family life
-regional differences
-weapons
-fauna
-battle tactics
-superstitions
-constellations/birth signs
-historic moments
-old traditions
-new traditions
-disease and apothecary
-dialects of the language
-enemies
-art and monuments
-taboos
-artifacts

I imagine this to be similar to the book Gnomes by Wil Huygen (a fantastic read) and I can't wait to see your guy's responses!


Disclaimer: All of this content is fan made material and does not claim to be apart of the canon universe established in the Game of Thrones or A Song of Ice and Fire franchise.  The work here will not be published or sold for monetary gain, and thus does not violate any of the copyright claims and trademarks that HBO, Bantam Books, or any other company have in the franchise.

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General Discussion / Chiorevethi
« on: November 02, 2016, 06:22:21 pm »
Torga havazhi!

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General Discussion / Hey Everyone. I'm back
« on: October 13, 2016, 04:03:50 pm »
Hello my brothers and sisters of Dothraki and Valyrian,

I'm sorry I've been away for so long.  I had started off the summer looking forward to spending hours on this forum, asking people questions, submitting translations and learning some Valyrian more.  However, life does work in its strange ways, and I ended up having to postpone a lot of plans I had for the conlanging community we have here. Job hunting, job working, school enrollment, school attendance, meeting family and having to deal with a possible cancer scare all threw themselves at me in these few short months.  Though life had thrown me through the thick and thin of its plans, I still came out on top of it all, standing proud.  I've got a new laptop and enough time in between my classes to post regularly, so I reckon you will be seeing more of me in the future.  I'll start up the daily Valyrian learning posts by Monday of next week, and I'll be shooting/editing the video for my italki application next weekend. I'll also be around to talk much of the time so if you want to talk to me in Dothraki feel free to contact me with a PM or Skype message.

Until we meet on the battlefield, be strong!

Choyosor

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