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General Discussion / Chiorevethi
« on: November 02, 2016, 06:22:21 pm »
Torga havazhi!
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Beginners / Re: Translation...help me pls
« on: October 13, 2016, 04:32:34 pm »
I'm going to guess Klingon based on the phonology used in the audio.
Klingon has a very unique phonetic inventory, and many of its sounds are not anything close to that of Dothraki. While Dothraki focuses on sounds used from the Alveolar to Velar range of the mouth, Klingon is focused around the bilabial, velar, and uvular range.
For example, the way this person pronounces "Dothraki" (17 seconds in) is a distinct transliteration into Klingon phonology; sounding more like [ɖo.'tʰɣɑ.qʰɪ] than the proper Dothrakian [doθ.'ɾa.ki]
Not only this, but some sounds used in this recording don't even exist in Dothraki. 8 seconds into the recording, the speaker says something like [mɑ.tʰɪ.bɾo.ɖɪ.qʰɑ] (loosely translated and based on my interpretation of the sounds). The voiced bilabial plosive, or the [ b ] sound, is never used in Dothraki, and there are no sounds in Dothraki that use aspiration, but are used twice in that little sound clip. Some sounds used do appear in Dothraki, but only in special circumstances. The open back unrounded vowel, [ɑ], and the near close near front unrounded vowel, [ɪ], only appear after the unvoiced uvular plosive, [q], but here they appear after the voiced bilabial nasal, the unvoiced aspirated alveolar plosive, and the unvoiced aspirated uvular plosive.
All of these evidences point to Klingon, so I suggest finding a few Klingon speakers to help you out.
Choyosor
Klingon has a very unique phonetic inventory, and many of its sounds are not anything close to that of Dothraki. While Dothraki focuses on sounds used from the Alveolar to Velar range of the mouth, Klingon is focused around the bilabial, velar, and uvular range.
For example, the way this person pronounces "Dothraki" (17 seconds in) is a distinct transliteration into Klingon phonology; sounding more like [ɖo.'tʰɣɑ.qʰɪ] than the proper Dothrakian [doθ.'ɾa.ki]
Not only this, but some sounds used in this recording don't even exist in Dothraki. 8 seconds into the recording, the speaker says something like [mɑ.tʰɪ.bɾo.ɖɪ.qʰɑ] (loosely translated and based on my interpretation of the sounds). The voiced bilabial plosive, or the [ b ] sound, is never used in Dothraki, and there are no sounds in Dothraki that use aspiration, but are used twice in that little sound clip. Some sounds used do appear in Dothraki, but only in special circumstances. The open back unrounded vowel, [ɑ], and the near close near front unrounded vowel, [ɪ], only appear after the unvoiced uvular plosive, [q], but here they appear after the voiced bilabial nasal, the unvoiced aspirated alveolar plosive, and the unvoiced aspirated uvular plosive.
All of these evidences point to Klingon, so I suggest finding a few Klingon speakers to help you out.
Choyosor
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General Discussion / Hey Everyone. I'm back
« on: October 13, 2016, 04:03:50 pm »
Hello my brothers and sisters of Dothraki and Valyrian,
I'm sorry I've been away for so long. I had started off the summer looking forward to spending hours on this forum, asking people questions, submitting translations and learning some Valyrian more. However, life does work in its strange ways, and I ended up having to postpone a lot of plans I had for the conlanging community we have here. Job hunting, job working, school enrollment, school attendance, meeting family and having to deal with a possible cancer scare all threw themselves at me in these few short months. Though life had thrown me through the thick and thin of its plans, I still came out on top of it all, standing proud. I've got a new laptop and enough time in between my classes to post regularly, so I reckon you will be seeing more of me in the future. I'll start up the daily Valyrian learning posts by Monday of next week, and I'll be shooting/editing the video for my italki application next weekend. I'll also be around to talk much of the time so if you want to talk to me in Dothraki feel free to contact me with a PM or Skype message.
Until we meet on the battlefield, be strong!
Choyosor
I'm sorry I've been away for so long. I had started off the summer looking forward to spending hours on this forum, asking people questions, submitting translations and learning some Valyrian more. However, life does work in its strange ways, and I ended up having to postpone a lot of plans I had for the conlanging community we have here. Job hunting, job working, school enrollment, school attendance, meeting family and having to deal with a possible cancer scare all threw themselves at me in these few short months. Though life had thrown me through the thick and thin of its plans, I still came out on top of it all, standing proud. I've got a new laptop and enough time in between my classes to post regularly, so I reckon you will be seeing more of me in the future. I'll start up the daily Valyrian learning posts by Monday of next week, and I'll be shooting/editing the video for my italki application next weekend. I'll also be around to talk much of the time so if you want to talk to me in Dothraki feel free to contact me with a PM or Skype message.
Until we meet on the battlefield, be strong!
Choyosor
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Beginners / Re: Translation...help me pls
« on: October 08, 2016, 02:40:43 pm »
Idk what language that was but it definitely wasn't Dothraki
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Dothraki Language Updates / Re: Dothraki words for the modern world
« on: September 27, 2016, 09:32:03 am »
Very good idea!
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Announcements / Re: Duolingo course
« on: September 27, 2016, 09:22:01 am »
UPDATE:
Unfortunately, there will be no Duolingo course for Dothraki. Duolingo tried to get the rights to a language course from HBO, but were turned down due to HBO's deal with Living Language. Unless something new happens, there's no need to sign up for the course.
Thank you all for the interest in the project,
Choyosor
Unfortunately, there will be no Duolingo course for Dothraki. Duolingo tried to get the rights to a language course from HBO, but were turned down due to HBO's deal with Living Language. Unless something new happens, there's no need to sign up for the course.
Thank you all for the interest in the project,
Choyosor
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General Discussion / Re: The Lords Prayer thread
« on: September 02, 2016, 05:12:17 am »
Responses to every point addressed to me:
1) My apologies for the misunderstanding then. I was at my
university and my brain tried to sum up what you said with my quick read through it. Unsuccessfully as it would appear. Still, it was a brilliant use of the languages.
2) I just started learning Swahili and I have to say that I'm intranced and a little bit in love with it. Surprisingly complex while still keeping a deeply human/rhythmic feel to it. If you're looking for a second natlang, I'd highly recommend it.
3) Well whenever you're ready or feel comfortable having a discussion I'd be happy to talk. I'll PM you after I finish this comment.
1) My apologies for the misunderstanding then. I was at my
university and my brain tried to sum up what you said with my quick read through it. Unsuccessfully as it would appear. Still, it was a brilliant use of the languages.
2) I just started learning Swahili and I have to say that I'm intranced and a little bit in love with it. Surprisingly complex while still keeping a deeply human/rhythmic feel to it. If you're looking for a second natlang, I'd highly recommend it.
3) Well whenever you're ready or feel comfortable having a discussion I'd be happy to talk. I'll PM you after I finish this comment.
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General Discussion / Re: The Lords Prayer thread
« on: August 30, 2016, 12:24:03 pm »
Truly incredible work, Hoerivezhof! Terrific idea taking latin and greek roots to create new Dothraki loan words in order to properly translate the prayer. I think that your work so far is brilliant and that I would like to contact you in the near future. I would enjoy the practice, especially since it's been a while from last I touched up my grammar.
Personally, if I am to borrow words instead of just mashing pre-existing dothraki words together, I take loan words from Swahili to complete my translations. P's become F's, B's become V's, U's become either O's or Oo's, and Dh's become Kh's. Simple. The phonology and structure more or less match up, and the cultures in which Swahili is descended from more or less match with that of the Dothraki. However since this is a script with European origin, it makes sense to use the languages that founded European civilization.
Personally, if I am to borrow words instead of just mashing pre-existing dothraki words together, I take loan words from Swahili to complete my translations. P's become F's, B's become V's, U's become either O's or Oo's, and Dh's become Kh's. Simple. The phonology and structure more or less match up, and the cultures in which Swahili is descended from more or less match with that of the Dothraki. However since this is a script with European origin, it makes sense to use the languages that founded European civilization.
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Introductions / Re: M'ath!
« on: August 30, 2016, 12:12:40 pm »
M'athchomaroon, zhey Hoerivezhof. Kisha iddeki shafka mra firaan kishi! Anha atimvirak asti shafki she leshitof, vosma anha ray shillok shafka rhaek dothraki! arrekaan kisha ashiloki she gache vilajero, hajas!
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Announcements / italki lessons
« on: August 15, 2016, 12:55:14 pm »
Exciting news, my fellow riders. I might be given the opportunity to teach Dothraki lessons on italki. Someone from their HQ contacted me the other day, telling me they saw my translation work on Evildea's video on Dothraki https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJMdSUu_o1Q (pardon the poor translation, it was on off day for me 
), and would like me to become a teacher for them. I'm currently going through the application process, and I'll let you all know what happens!
Hajas
), and would like me to become a teacher for them. I'm currently going through the application process, and I'll let you all know what happens!Hajas
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General Discussion / Re: My personal Dothraki script
« on: August 05, 2016, 10:51:27 am »
I would be more than happy to help if you need it. Up north we got plenty of those rainy days you've been talking about
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General Discussion / My personal Dothraki script
« on: August 03, 2016, 12:12:02 pm »
Ok, for this post I'm going to delve into a personal script that I use to write in Dothraki. It's a latin based script, but with many different and borrowed symbols for convenience. It's heavily inspired by the script Qvaak made, but with what I consider improvements to the overall design.
Aa [a]
Cc [k] - Personally, I hate the letter k (so did Tolkien, the Roman scribe Quintillian, and the Nords). I think it's a gross, blocky letter that can easily be replaced by the superior letter C
Dd [d]
Ee [e]
Ff [f]
Gg [g]
Hh [h]
Xx [ x ]
Ii [ i ]
Jj [dƷ] - I left J to act as the affricate because Qvaak's affricate (the ezh with the dot diacritic) can be confused for the regular ezh
Ll [l]
Mm [m]
Nn [n]
Oo [ o ]
Qq [q]
Rr [r]
Ss [ s ]
Tt [t]
Tʃ tʃ [tʃ]
Þþ [θ] - I think the thorn fits better and looks more unique than the eth
Σʃ [ʃ]
Vv [v]
Ww [w]
Yy [j] - I also don't like the letter Y, but since I don't have any other options to make that sound I guess I'm stuck with it
Zz [z]
Ʒʒ [ʒ]
Here are a few example sentences in my script:
M'athchomaroon! Hash yer dothrae chek, okeosi anni?
M'aþtʃomaroon! Haʃ yer doþrae tʃec, oceosi anni?
Anha tih krazaajaan, m'anha tih maf.
Anha tih crazaajaan, m'anha tih maf
I'm currently writing out the Dothraki dictionary in a notebook so I can memorize as many words as possible and hopefully gain total fluency withing the next few years or so, and I've decided to write in in my own script in order to better memorize it. I hope at least a few of you like it and maybe start using it
Aa [a]
Cc [k] - Personally, I hate the letter k (so did Tolkien, the Roman scribe Quintillian, and the Nords). I think it's a gross, blocky letter that can easily be replaced by the superior letter C
Dd [d]
Ee [e]
Ff [f]
Gg [g]
Hh [h]
Xx [ x ]
Ii [ i ]
Jj [dƷ] - I left J to act as the affricate because Qvaak's affricate (the ezh with the dot diacritic) can be confused for the regular ezh
Ll [l]
Mm [m]
Nn [n]
Oo [ o ]
Qq [q]
Rr [r]
Ss [ s ]
Tt [t]
Tʃ tʃ [tʃ]
Þþ [θ] - I think the thorn fits better and looks more unique than the eth
Σʃ [ʃ]
Vv [v]
Ww [w]
Yy [j] - I also don't like the letter Y, but since I don't have any other options to make that sound I guess I'm stuck with it
Zz [z]
Ʒʒ [ʒ]
Here are a few example sentences in my script:
M'athchomaroon! Hash yer dothrae chek, okeosi anni?
M'aþtʃomaroon! Haʃ yer doþrae tʃec, oceosi anni?
Anha tih krazaajaan, m'anha tih maf.
Anha tih crazaajaan, m'anha tih maf
I'm currently writing out the Dothraki dictionary in a notebook so I can memorize as many words as possible and hopefully gain total fluency withing the next few years or so, and I've decided to write in in my own script in order to better memorize it. I hope at least a few of you like it and maybe start using it
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General Discussion / Re: Futhark Dothraki
« on: August 02, 2016, 09:46:51 pm »
Futhark is an old, Nordic writing system found across Scandinavia, The British Isles and Germany on cliff sides, large boulders and old books dating from 100-ish to 1000 ce that was used by the Germanic tribes of the region. Many symbols were adopted from Latin and adapted to better fit writing with a hammer and chisel, with many straight lines and not many curves. However some original symbols do remain that were better equipped for the old Norse it was used for. This alphabet fell out of practice in Scandinavia during the Renaissance, but symbols such as the thorn were adapted back into the New Roman text and are still used in Northern Europe today.
The unicode is in the same order as before:
U+16AB
U+16B3
U+16DE
U+16D6
U+16A0 (zero)
U+16B7
U+16BA
U+16C1
U+16C3
U+16B2
U+16DA
U+16D7
U+16C0 (zero)
U+16DF
U+16E9
U+16B1
U+16CB
U+03A3 (zero)
U+16CF
U+16A6
U+16A1
U+16B9
U+16BB
U+16A4
U+16C9
U+16CE
The unicode is in the same order as before:
U+16AB
U+16B3
U+16DE
U+16D6
U+16A0 (zero)
U+16B7
U+16BA
U+16C1
U+16C3
U+16B2
U+16DA
U+16D7
U+16C0 (zero)
U+16DF
U+16E9
U+16B1
U+16CB
U+03A3 (zero)
U+16CF
U+16A6
U+16A1
U+16B9
U+16BB
U+16A4
U+16C9
U+16CE
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General Discussion / Futhark Dothraki
« on: August 02, 2016, 11:31:18 am »
Hello once again! Back from a wonderful vacation in Florida and ready to post some more transliterations from other alphabets. Today, I'm going to do the old nordic alphabet known as futhark
ᚫ - A
ᚳ - Ch
ᛞ - D
ᛖ - E
ᚠ - F
ᚷ - G
ᚺ - H
ᛁ - I
ᛃ - J
ᚲ - K
ᛚ - L
ᛗ - M
ᛀ - N
ᛟ - O
ᛩ - Q
ᚱ - R
ᛋ - S
Σ - Sh
ᛏ - T
ᚦ - Th
ᚡ - V
ᚹ - W
ᚻ - Kh
ᚤ - Y
ᛉ - Z
ᛎ - Zh
Wow, Futhark translates very well into Dothraki. There are some exceptions that I consider close enough to the actual sounds needed for Dothraki such as the Kh sound, the Ch sound, the J sound, and the Zh sound. As well as taking a capital sigma for the Sh sound. Otherwise I think the look is perfect for Dothraki!
Here are a few example sentences in Futhark:
M'athchomaroon, hash yer dothrae chek, okeosi anni?
ᛗ'ᚫᚦᚳᛟᛗᚫᚱᛟᛟᛀ, ᚺᚫΣ ᚤᛖᚱ ᛞᛟᚦᚱᚫᛖ ᚳᛖᚲ, ᛟᚲᛖᛟᛋᛁ ᚫᛀᛀᛁ?
Anha tih krazaajaan, m'anha tih maf.
ᚫᛀᚺᚫ ᛏᛁᚺ ᚲᚱᚫᛉᚫᚫᛃᚫᚫᛀ, ᛗ'ᚫᛀᚺᚫ ᛏᛁᚺ ᛗᚫᚠ
ᚫ - A
ᚳ - Ch
ᛞ - D
ᛖ - E
ᚠ - F
ᚷ - G
ᚺ - H
ᛁ - I
ᛃ - J
ᚲ - K
ᛚ - L
ᛗ - M
ᛀ - N
ᛟ - O
ᛩ - Q
ᚱ - R
ᛋ - S
Σ - Sh
ᛏ - T
ᚦ - Th
ᚡ - V
ᚹ - W
ᚻ - Kh
ᚤ - Y
ᛉ - Z
ᛎ - Zh
Wow, Futhark translates very well into Dothraki. There are some exceptions that I consider close enough to the actual sounds needed for Dothraki such as the Kh sound, the Ch sound, the J sound, and the Zh sound. As well as taking a capital sigma for the Sh sound. Otherwise I think the look is perfect for Dothraki!
Here are a few example sentences in Futhark:
M'athchomaroon, hash yer dothrae chek, okeosi anni?
ᛗ'ᚫᚦᚳᛟᛗᚫᚱᛟᛟᛀ, ᚺᚫΣ ᚤᛖᚱ ᛞᛟᚦᚱᚫᛖ ᚳᛖᚲ, ᛟᚲᛖᛟᛋᛁ ᚫᛀᛀᛁ?
Anha tih krazaajaan, m'anha tih maf.
ᚫᛀᚺᚫ ᛏᛁᚺ ᚲᚱᚫᛉᚫᚫᛃᚫᚫᛀ, ᛗ'ᚫᛀᚺᚫ ᛏᛁᚺ ᛗᚫᚠ
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General Discussion / Conlangs
« on: August 02, 2016, 08:36:21 am »
Does anyone else know any other conlangs outside the realm of GoT? I've learned Esperanto and Toki Pona, and plan to learn Klingon as soon as the Duolingo course comes out.